Transcript for Who came out best and worst in Michael Cohen’s public hearing?
trump’s former fixer, Michael Cohen, testify before congress. I mean, to me it was like pavarotti was singing, you know. He made some damning claims but a lot of it looked like an episode of congress gone wild. Watch. When I say con man, I’m talking about a man who declares himself brilliant but directed me to threaten his high school, his colleges and the college board to never release his grades or S.A.T. Scores. He doesn’t give you questions. He doesn’t give you orders. He speaks in a code. Liar, liar, pants on fire. No one should ever listen to you and give you credibility. I just find it interesting, sir, that between yourself and your colleagues, that not one question so far since I’m here has been asked about president trump. So in between all that show boating, there were takeaways from Cohen’s testimony. He produced checks signed by trump which Cohen said were to reimburse him for paying off stormy Daniels. Remember that? That trump knew ahead of time about the Wikileaks dump that would damage the Clinton campaign. He knew it. He said that trump’s lawyers helped him craft false statements about trump tower Moscow. Maybe they’re going to be called in front of congress. And that he threatened 500 people on trump’s behalf with lawsuits. You just heard a little bit of that. It was kind of like the godfather. I thought they were going to produce his cousin, bring him out. It wouldn’t have shocked me. So who came out looking worse, trump, Cohen or the Republicans in congress this time? What do you think, sunny? You’re the lawyer, so — You were glued. I want to know the legal aspect. I was glued to the TV. I watched part of it with joy in her dressing room and we tweeted it out and I listened to it in the car and I watched it at home and I dvred it and I watched it again. It was 8 hours and I took notes. It was riveting television. I had three legal takeaways. One was that stormy Daniels, that the payment — the hush money payment to stormy Daniels and Karen mcdouga I thought that those were hush payments to influence the outcome of an election. He didn’t want the American people to know about it. One of those checks was sent while he was in the white house in August 2017. Right. I thought that was really, really significant because an end-around campaign finance laws and something megha and I have been talking about for a long Did that rise to the level of crimes and misdemeanors which would cause impeachment? I don’t think he’s going to be impeached because it also requires two-third of the votes in the senate and I don’t think the Republicans are going to do After all this they won’t? But I do think it’s a federal crime. The second thing that was interesting to me was trump’s refusal to divest his businesses. Our founding fathers wanted to make sure that our president puts the business of the country before lining his personal pockets, and I think that Michael Cohen made it very clear that the only reason president trump even ran to become president was because he wanted to line his personal pockets. And I think he puts every single decision that he makes, I think he makes it so that he can further line his pockets. That’s why he ran. I said it two years ago. He ran to make money. Did you notice how they could not defend trump. All they could do on the Republican side was attack — His credibility. Not one of them stood up and said my president is not a racist, a con man or a cheat. No one said that. My third legal point was, if you remember he talked about the southern district of New York, Michael Cohen, and said that there’s an ongoing investigation. On the Richter scale for lawyers, that was like an earthquake. I was like, oh, my gosh. That is because the southern district of New York is known for prosecuting financial crimes, and they are the best in the business at doing it. And when you have the southern district of New York looking through the trump organization’s finances and the inaugural committee, they go after the principals. So people like ivanka and don Jr. And the president should be very worried about that. You also can’t be pardoned, right, if it’s from the southern district? You can be pardoned because that’s from the federal office but if the state starts looking into it too, that’s trouble. So Russia collusion, whatever, I thought that that was the biggest, biggest takeaway. I think trump should be really nervous about that. We only have two minutes and I know we have a lot — it was a long day yesterday. The big takeaway for me yesterday was Wikileaks. It’s his word versus the president at this point. If he wrote in his writings to Mueller that he didn’t know about Wikileaks beforehand and if what Michael Cohen is saying is true, that would be the crime, that he lied about that. On a personal note, I thought it was — That that would be the crime? Lying, if he lied to Mueller in his statement about not knowing about Wikileaks. Perjury? Right. He would be dishonest about not knowing about Wikileaks, the president. Is that not a problem? It could be. Why do you shrug your shoulders like that? You can lie to the federal prosecutor and it’s not — No, it could be but on the scale of one to ten of lies, he’s a liar. Yeah, we know that. We know he’s a liar. They have to prove it. I think that could be cause for working — the middle man here was Roger stone and in his story Roger stone called him and said I just talked to Julian assange and he said expect these e-mails and trump said good. If he lied about that, that’s bad. So Roger stone needs to flip in that case, right? And he will. He will. Because when they say you’re going to go to jail, they all turn. They all turn. There’s so many more to turn. The highlight for me, it was a horrible moment for this country. I went to bed sick to my stomach. It was sad to me and I thought at the very end with Elijah Cummings who’s the ranking member, you didn’t know which party he was from. He gave me goose bumps and brought tears to my eyes because he talked about this country and the fact that we need to better ourselves. He said it far better than I was planning to say it on the show He said we’re better than this. I want him to say it. Let him take it away. As a country, we are so much better than this. The one meeting I had with president trump, I said to him, the greatest gift that you and I, Mr. President, can give to our children is making sure that we give them a democracy that is intact, a democracy better than the one that we came upon. I’m hoping that you things you said today will help us to get back there. Okay. He’s quite a beautiful person, in my opinion. But I’m not an ideologue. I don’t watch this and find joy. People can criticize me for that because you’re not one extreme or the other but I don’t watch this and feel joy. I want the best for this country, I really do and I know the people at this table do as well but I think he spoke for many people like myself who said take the politics out of this, the cheating, the lying, all of that out of it, what are we passing down for our children? We’ve been watching two years of demoralizing of this country by the man at the top so yesterday was a comeuppance and I liked it. Coming up, Meghan, we’re going to get your take on Michael Cohen’s testimony when we come back. Tomorrow, Bernie will be here. It is raining candidates here on “The view.” Yes, fire up another sizzling political view because tomorrow senator Bernie Sanders faces the women in a day-time exclusive on “The view” on ABC. 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