Transcript for Did Donald Trump order security clearance for Jared Kushner?
So I’ve said before that trump runs the white house like don corleone, am I right? And he keeps proving me right. All of his advisers told him to not give his son-in-law Jared Kushner top S clearance because of concerns about Jared’s buzz dealings overseas, right? So what did he do? Well, “The New York Times” reports that trump ordered them to give it to him. Yes. Against all the rules. He pays no attention. But Abby here, she interviewed ivanka, and watch what ivanka told Abby. Watch. There are a lot of people that question whether you were given special treatment by the president, overriding other — Absolutely not. — Officials. Can you speak to that? There were anonymous leaks about there being issues, but the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband’s clearance, zero. What were the problems early on? There weren’t any. So you just heard that, okay? She flat out said that her dad had no part in getting Jared clearance. Now, how many of you at this table believe that? That’s why I wanted to ask the question, because, one, she doesn’t do interviews really ever because she doesn’t — I don’t think she likes answering these questions which she should never be exempt from that. She is not Tiffany trump by the way. She is a senior adviser to the president of the United States, and this was a very relevant question. It wasn’t breaking news at the time but I knew it could be if there was more news that would come out and then the house Democrats have been investigating this and they still will be. I was shocked that she is was willing to answer it and two, she was so clearly adamant that her father had no involvement at all. It’s the president putting his own interests above the security of the country when there are serious questions, when his own senior officials said red flags, there are some problems here, please take us seriously, and he probably shouldn’t have top security clearances and look more into it. Three months later, all of a sudden both of them have top secret security clearance. What was interesting to me, general Kelly who was his chief of staff who I think everyone felt was the person who keep the presidency on track, wrote an internal memo indicating what happened, indicating that he advised the president against giving Jared Kushner that top secret clearance and the president ordered him to override all of the Intel officers and give him the top security clearance. So there are memos outlining what happened. Why does he have to have all of his relatives in the white house? I don’t understand. If you want to give ivanka a job, make her secretary of I think that would be a good job for her. Why does she have to be in the administration? First, props to Abby for watching her in her first public lie. I mean, really, a job well done. Proven lie, publicly, and you deserve to take a victory lap, as you told you last night, over this. There are a lot of journalists who do not ask tough questions and you deserve props for this. Isn’t it, Meghan, that she thought that Abby would be easy I don’t know what she thought. I don’t actually care — Well, she didn’t askidn’t ask me to interview her, let’s put it that Or me. I’m not a journalist so there’s no way in hell I’m getting that. These aren’t tough questions. These are questions she should be able to answer. Yeah, because she is a senior adviser in the white house. I have many issues with this. There’s a difference between us and Malaysia. We shouldn’t have families members working in the white house in the capacity they are because there are innate problems, hey, my son-in-law, I’m going to want preferential treatment for my daughter and son-in-law. I like people who tell me, Meghan, no, you’re doing the wrong thing, you’re saying the wrong thing. I do not surround myself with yes people and my father never did. The problem is he’s completely surrounded by sycophantssycophants. I think part of the problem is, you’re right, it’s much more sort of like a dictatorship within families. A mob, a mob. I don’t know enough about the mob. I do. I do. Rather than the good of the country and national security and people who don’t deserve national security clearance. That’s why we have federal anti-nepotism laws in place, right? He shouldn’t have been allowed to do it but the department of justice in 2017 said, actually this is okay because the white house isn’t an executive agency. In my view, it is the largest executive agency in the world. So I think the department of justice really got it wrong. But remember, this started with the kennedys, right? President Kennedy had Bobby Kennedy as his attorney general so there is precedent for it. It’s the first crack in her veneer though. ING caught lying union air is a different thing. Seeing what she said in the interview and being caught lying, for her and the image that she is so protective and vociferously and intensely shielded from her, to me, I don’t know what she’s saying. There never seems like there’s a real person in there. I’m serious. So for me as an adviser or a daughter, it’s interesting to me that the first time that we see her caught lying on air is being done by Abby. She’s just like him. We have a legal note. A spokesperson for Kushner’s attorney stated that in 2018 white house and security clearance officials affirmed that Kushner’s security clearance was handled with no pressure from anyone and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time. In addition, both trump and his daughter ivanka have both publicly denied that the president was involved in security clearance for Kushner. Who are you going to believe, “The New York Times” or the daughter of a criminal.
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